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 Posted - 06/13/2008 : 02:35:13 AM
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My butterfly theory I had was correct. My mom called today and my Papaw was rushed to the hospital because he was non responsive. He is being moved Unniversity Of Cincy to be close to a Neurologist. He is a DNR so surgery is out of the question. He had a pretty big bleed on his brain compared to minor bleed he had before. Even if they can relieve the pressure the doctors say it might not make any difference. This close to father's day just stinks, my dad is now going to have to make some sort of decision. I am not sure what the options are at tis point and I will know more perhaps later.
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 03:00:00 AM
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| Sending you and your papaw my thoughts and prayers. ((hugs))
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 03:59:58 AM
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Oh MEL! I am so sorry to hear of this downturn for your beloved grandfather. I am going to be in Mason all weekend. I will try to PM you when I check in the hotel and check on his status with you.
Much love and many hugs my friend!
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 04:11:30 AM
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Red,
I'm so sorry to hear that. You're probably right about the butterfly, could be his wife coming to comfort you and let you know all will be ok.
You are in my thoughts and prayers.
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 05:45:57 AM
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Well he is a tough old bird. They are doing surgery tommorow. The bleed is not new its old blood in there. The first hospital was wrong and now the neurologist ( @ UC) said its old blood that is putting pressure on his brain. He is going to drill two hole on each side of his head insert drain tubes to relieve the pressure. They hope by doping this it will increase his mobility. He is a totally different person this evening my mom said. More alert than he has been, and he knows who everyone is and is talking to everyone. This procedure will be done while he is AWAKE! Can you believe that? The are just going to numb the area and do everything while talking to him. The doctor said this will not cure anything so we shouldnt look for a huge turn around, but if it isnt done he will not get better only worse and rapidly.
So I guess it is good news. Chrissy I am not far from Mason at ALL!
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 05:53:36 AM
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I'm sorry Red.. times like this are hard.
Please .. I'm sorry to say.. don't get your hopes up to very high.. alot of times people are almost crystal clear..lucid right before they pass... especially when they haven't been prior to this awakening.
Awake drilling is common in older folks because of them being fragile.. and the whole anesthesia thing.
Broken hips and such.. are done with the patient awake very often.. they are just sedated..and given a block.. so It isn't all that uncommon to have an awake surgery in the elderly.
You were probably right on with the butterfly visit.
My thoughts and good vibes to you and your family.
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 06:03:02 AM
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| Yes I was thinking the same as I have often seen the increase in appetite and almost normal personality come back to someone. He just keeps hanging in there for what i do not know. Most folks would call me cold hearted but I wish he would just pass. He has no quality of life and if he was able to go back when he was of sound mind he would have told everyone if my mind goes I want to go. He was a very independant person and was walking 4 miles a day cutting hair right up until the day before he fell outside and caused all this mess In November of last year. Hypothermia messed him up really bad. It is painful for everyone around him to watch not just he himself being miserable. Most days he doesnt even know its going on but we all see it and its very hard to stomach.
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 06:51:23 AM
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| SO sorry red. my thoughts are with you.
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 08:30:05 AM
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I don't think you are cold hearted. I think someone who want him to continue suffering would be more cold. When my grandfather was really sick, I never wished his death, but I would pray that whatever happened, happened for the best and that he was not suffering anymore. It is very hard to see someone deteriorate before your eyes.
Your papaw could just be waiting to see everyone before he goes. I've heard some people do that. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
nancym
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 09:01:13 AM
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| Warm thoughts and best wishes to you and your family red!
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 09:02:53 AM
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Ohh goodness.. If anyone thought that was cold.. there is something wrong with them...You are right.. he has no quality of life left.. and he probably does want to see the people he loves, and who love him for the last time on this earth.
I hope he passes quickly as well.
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 09:28:17 AM
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| (((((HUGS))))) Red. You don't sound cold at all. You want your Paw Paw to be out of pain, and to not be stuck in the situation he's in now. That is loving, not cold. I'll be keeping you all in my prayers, hon. Please keep us updated on how he's doing.
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 12:38:50 PM
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I know its so hard to watch some one you love get Ill.
I feel for you.
BIG HUGS
((((((((((REDWOLF}}}}}}}}}
He s not alone Angels are all around him.
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 8:21:44 PM
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(((HUGS))) to you dear. I know this is a very hard thing to do. And no you don't sound cold at all! When my Dad was near the end I wished for his swift passing also. It hurt so bad to see a once vital man reduced to someone I barely recognized.
PawPaw probably is waiting to see all his loved ones.
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 9:57:42 PM
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I am so sorry to hear this Red. I will hope for the best.
jc
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Posted - 06/13/2008 : 11:08:09 PM
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| you have my thoughts and prayers with you and your grandfather.... wishing you all the best
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 06:01:36 AM
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Red,
That wasn't cold hearted, that was showing love and compassion to someone you hold dear to your heart.
I'd feel the same way for any of my relatives, and I wouldn't want to live like that either.
It's hard to say goodbye, but it's easier than watching a loved one suffer.
BIG HUGS TO YA!!
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 10:02:19 AM
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| Well my Papaw had surgery this morning. They only drilled one hole on the left side of his brain. They are draining the old blood from it. There was quite a lot as of thia afternoon. They said if the draining slows down to very minimal they will remove the drainage tube tommorow. My mom said he was feeling a lot better this afternoon he remembered a lot of stuff that he didnt know before. I just do not get why they didnt try to drain this blood before when they first found it back in November. If it weould have released the pressure and increased his mobility back then ya know. But thanks to all of you for your prayers and sweet thoughts. We shall see what happens.
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 11:44:41 AM
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| Adding my thoughts/prayers to those already surrounding your family and grandfather...I may not know you but I know in situations such as this, every ounce of positive energy directed toward you can be beneficial. Sending wishes for peace and strength.
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 4:04:17 PM
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sorry to hear that you and your family are going through this.
of course my thoughts are with you also.
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Posted - 06/16/2008 : 12:17:16 AM
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[SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Hoping for the best on a dignified path forward.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Your given accounts over the last few days of your father's ordeal speak volumes in the realm of the neurosciences which demonstrates how an individual is made up of both the organic constructs of brain and the subtleties of learned personality and experience that make up mind. Tragic as his condition may seem it is also very interesting and instructive. Memories returning are positive attributes.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2][COLOR=white]Grief, in my experience, has not ever been one of life's easy lessons.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
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Posted - 06/16/2008 : 01:36:02 AM
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Butterflies everywhere yesterday. We took the kids to the creek to walk it and find some tadpoles and things. Everywhere I went we were being followed again by two different butterflies. A pretty ( monarch i think) bright yellow and balck one and the all white one much smaller that the yellow. I got pics too. Will post them later.
My papaw was doing fine up until this morning. His 02 level was way down and they sent him back out to the hospital ( just came back from hospital yesterday) for some tests. Cat scan came back showing nothing knew, his chect xray was negative and his blood work not sure of. The EKG they did showed he had suffered a heart attack in the last 3 to 6 days. He usually never complains about pain but this time he told them that he hurt all over.
So we shall see what happens.
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Posted - 06/16/2008 : 04:31:47 AM
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Alot of times people get tired of fighting.. and that's all it takes Red.
My Ex's Father did just that.. and within one day.. he died.. I know he was tired of all the fuss.. and tired of not being able to breathe.. He told me.."I'm not going to nobodies Nursing home" and he didn't, within 12 hours he was gone.
I think your Pawpaw is finished struggling.. and wants to pass away. I hope all that goes smoothly without alot of interference for him.
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